LNWR Society Forum

Forum (only) for members of the LNWR Society
It is currently Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:03 pm

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:47 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:43 pm
Posts: 591
Location: Wellingborough
Spotted this on e-bay. A large motor car is being (un?)loaded from a ship at a location which looks a bit like Kyle of Lochalsh to me but is probably on the LNWR. The train of wagons is a real mix with (left to right):

private owner wagon
LNWR 21ft carriage truck
probably Midland wagon
LNWR D88 van
LNWR D33 van
what I assume is an empty cask wagon

All are lettered LMS, so the date must be well after 1923 but the D33 roof door van looks to have brake son one side only. There is a light mark where the brake block might be, but no sign of the lever or the pin rack.

Does anyone know what the non-LNWR cask wagon is?

Mike


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:10 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:29 pm
Posts: 444
Hi Mike

Is it one of the North British empty cask wagons, as modelled by Ratio, that we had a bit of correspondence over recently?

Peter


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:38 am
Posts: 43
Mike
Possibly an open (i.e.roofless) cattle or sheep truck, that the Scottish pre-grouping companies operated for a while? I think the Highland for instance had several.
I would agree that the photo has the look of Kyle of Lochalsh, but cannot be certain.
Quentin


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:38 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:43 pm
Posts: 591
Location: Wellingborough
Doubt its NBR Peter as its lettered LMS. I was wondering about Midland empty casks or empty barrels?

The D33 really interests me, having brakes one side at such a very late late. Everyone will recognise it as an LNWR D33 ... or, as the photo just might (but might not) be in Scotland, could it be a Caledonian van?

Mike


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:57 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:29 pm
Posts: 444
Ah, didn't spot the LMS Mike! Am going for my new glasses on Wednesday!!!

Certainly though my first reaction was as yours; it looks like Kyle of Lochalsh!

Peter


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:49 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:43 pm
Posts: 591
Location: Wellingborough
A "Midland" friend of mine (no, please .. its not his fault!) says the empty whatever wagon is NOT Midland. He thinks it may be Scottish. Any suggestions?

Mike


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:39 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:33 pm
Posts: 163
Location: Deep in the Dordogne, Commune of Loubejac
Not every dockside is Kyle (although many modellers might think so!). Neither the track on the quay nor the land beyond the sound seem to me to match that location - the hills of Skye rise much more steeply across the water, and looking towards the end of the dock there should be a transverse track (wagoon turntables at each end) and the station buildings should be where the vessel being loaded is obviously moored. Sorry can't help with the rolling stock ...

_________________
David Littlewood-Tysoe
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
Mark Twain


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:38 am
Posts: 43
Mike Williams wrote:
A "Midland" friend of mine (no, please .. its not his fault!) says the empty whatever wagon is NOT Midland. He thinks it may be Scottish. Any suggestions?

Mike

Yes Mike, see my earlier posting above re pre-group Scottish livestock wagons. Sorry I cannot be more specific at present.
Quentin


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:43 pm
Posts: 591
Location: Wellingborough
Thank you Quentin, I was still looking into that and now see that the Caledonian had some similar wagons for fish traffic which sounds possible.

Mike


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:33 pm
Posts: 163
Location: Deep in the Dordogne, Commune of Loubejac
If it helps to ID the wagons, I'm now reasonably sure the location is actually Oban, ex-Callander and Oban Railway, a constituent of the LMS when it was formed in 1923.

_________________
David Littlewood-Tysoe
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
Mark Twain


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group