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 Post subject: Meat vans at Hawick
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:03 pm 

Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:43 pm
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Location: Wellingborough
Stumbled across this picture today:


What caught my eye is the LNWR D45 meat vans, some of which were branded for Hawick. There is a row of them in the foreground and two further back and I don't think they have vacuum brakes. There is no sign of a stand pipe at the end and the whole undergear just looks too open.

Don't think I have ever seen a photo of one of these unfitted .... has anyone else?


 Post subject: Re: Meat vans at Hawick
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:05 pm 

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Good point Mike!

First of all I would query the date of the photo which is stated to be "early 20th century", but I think might be a little earlier. It is before 1913 when the new and larger signalbox was built, but it is also before the footbridge was replaced, and a new siding was installed behind the up platform. these were carried out between 1897 and 1917 (by comparison of the OS 25" maps) and I would favour a date closer to 1897. The precise dates might be available to anyone who has researched the history of this station. Someone with knowledge of NBR locos and stock might be able to qualify that opinion.

Given that, do we have any idea when the D45 vans were fitted with VB? might it not have been until after 1900?

I have not previously heard of meat traffic from Hawick, but it must have been regular. Was there a large abattoir in or near the town?

 Post subject: Re: Meat vans at Hawick
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:02 pm 

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The 'Undiscovered Scotland' website, in a section about Hawick states - 'The railway also helped the development of the second strand of Hawick's economy: its trade in livestock. By 1920 well over a quarter of a million sheep and cattle were sold each year at Hawick's market before being moved on by rail.' Hawick was apparently the site for the first licenced cattle auction market in 1817.

There must have been a considerable movement of meat as well as livestock, and accident reports give a hint of this. For example, the special down goods from Camden was in collision with a light engine at Basford Hall on 19 November 1898. The train was made up of 41 empty meat wagons (the BoT report description) and brake, of which 23 were LNWR, 6 Highland, 8 Caledonian, 1 GWR and 3 WCJS.

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