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 Post subject: LMS Permanent Way
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:39 am 

Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:29 am
Posts: 126
Can anyone assist with the following question please?

"I am writing to ask if you know of the whereabouts of any LMS
Standard Railway Equipment (SRE) permanent way drawings.

I am researching the design and construction of British railway track
from approximately 1880 to 1940 and as part of this study I am
looking for evidence of the distribution of these SRE drawings to the
LMS, LNER and SR, during the 1920s.

Now I have sets of drawings for the LNER and SR, but so far I have
not found any for the LMS, and when I was talking about this to Bob
Essery at Scaleforum this year, he suggested that you might be able
to help me."


Dave Pennington

 Post subject: Re: LMS Permanent Way
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:48 pm 

Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:00 pm
Posts: 23
Location: York
I must admit I had never come across the initials SRE before - but that does not mean they were never used - my career on BR only started in 1964! I am familar with Standard Drawings, which were referred to by the Design Office; but I was always on the Maintenance side. The LNER was more devolved than the LMS, and had P Way Design Offices at Kings Cross [Southern Area], York [North Eastern Area] and Edinburgh [Scottish Area]. On the LMS, there was only one Design Office - and that was at Euston. It would have been during the 1980's, that the Regional Headquarters was moved to Birmingham, and so any Standard Drawings SHOULD have been moved to Birmingham at that time. The York ones were "presided over" by the late John Petrie, who would locate any drawing for you within 5 minutes - from the many thousands stored in his cellar! Browsing the 1st Edition of British Railway Track, Design, Construction & Maintenance, published by the Permanent Way Institution in 1943, there is no reference to Standard Railway Equipment drawings; only the R.E.A., which applied to all Railways except the GWR. I can only guess that R.E.A. stood for Railway Engineer's Association [or Alliance]? So the only place to look for any LMS SRE P Way drawings, would appear to be Birmingham.

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