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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:50 am 
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I have been asked if I can help identify this carriage. The enquirer thinks it is a D265 corridor third class but has one fewer compartment than the carriage shown on page 93 of Jenkinsosn's LNWR Coaches. It also appear to be a toplight from the extra beading and panels above the windows. Could it be a 52' 6'' third class carriage to D266A?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:35 pm 
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Having a brief look on here:

http://lnwrs.org.uk/Carriages/toplights.php

and working on the basis that it is 52'6" I would say that D267 and either of the D266 are possibilities as they have 7 compartments and a lavatory at each end. I would discount D135 and 137 on the basis the compartments all look of equal size.

You could also try using the following tool:

http://lnwrs.org.uk/Carriages/identifyanycarriage.php

David


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:49 pm 
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Hi David,

I forgot about the carriage search tool. but got to my answer of a 266A using Jenkinson's book and looking at the LNWRS carriage pages. It was through reading Jenk's book that I became rather unsure as to my result!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:59 pm 
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Hi Jol,

I am not 100% and it needs further investigation, hopefully Philip will be along in the not too distant future with the answer

David


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:12 pm 
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Did you notice the missing feature of carriage search - cannot select diagram number directly. Will be along shortly.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:53 am 
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Yes I did note that as I thought to look for the D265 direct but could not. Had written it down to mention it to you but you have beat me to it!!

It is a wonderful most tool


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:58 pm 
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I may be wrong but I don't think it's a D266A as I believe that is one of the recessed door versions used on the Liverpool-Newcastle service? The doors on the photograph don't appear to be recessed?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:01 pm 
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The number is M2748M, so consulting Jenk's book reveals it as a 52ft 6in carriage to D.266. As usual some of the panelling has been lost in BR days.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:42 pm 
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If anyone cares, this coach was turned out as LNWR No.273 on 10/03/17, and became LMS 4605 on 02/02/24. Date of renumbering under the 1933 scheme is (as in the case of all coaches) not known.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:58 am 
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Thank you Philip.

I obviously didn't delve deep enough into Jenkinson.

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